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forget obama's katrina. this is october surprise named sandy. thankfully, in the last days, many have thoughtfully considered the role of a strong infrastructure and a stronger government. this helped us focus on the very real need for the kind of disaster planning and preparedness that only our government can provide. this morning, president obama said he remains focused as well. >> this continues to be my number one priority. there is nothing more important than us getting this right. we are going to spend as much time, effort, and energy that is necessary to make sure all the people in new york, new jersey, and connecticut know that the entire country is behind them. >> back to my panel, david, in the immediate moments after a disaster, with he feel like, oh, all victims are worthy and we have this rallying around the victim effect. how long does that last? should we expect in this context that some folks are going to be made into villains. >> that is going to happen. there is tremendous anger in staten island. the power is coming back on in
forget obama's katrina. this is october surprise named sandy. thankfully, in the last days, many have thoughtfully considered the role of a strong infrastructure and a stronger government. this helped us focus on the very real need for the kind of disaster planning and preparedness that only our government can provide. this morning, president obama said he remains focused as well. >> this continues to be my number one priority. there is nothing more important than us getting this right....
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bush, in relation to hurricane katrina. >> lessons learned. katrina was a lesson throughout the federal government of what not to do, not just at the presidential level, but operationally well below the president. and even for the states, quite frankly. the governor and the mayor weren't shining examples of, you know, state control over that situation. so there was enough blame and mistake-prone action to look at and learn from, and obama is nothing if not a quick study in that regard and understanding and appreciating how to use the tools of this government at a time of crisis. now, we'll see. the expectation for the president is to do his job and to be on top of doing his job. so politically i don't know if there's a huge upside -- there's more of a downside risk than anything if there's a gaffe somewhere, if there's a mistake somewhere in the execution of responding to those in need, but i think this president has shown that his administration will be prepared for that because that's what people expect. >> karen, i was watching your facial
bush, in relation to hurricane katrina. >> lessons learned. katrina was a lesson throughout the federal government of what not to do, not just at the presidential level, but operationally well below the president. and even for the states, quite frankly. the governor and the mayor weren't shining examples of, you know, state control over that situation. so there was enough blame and mistake-prone action to look at and learn from, and obama is nothing if not a quick study in that regard and...
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katrina cost roughly $100 billion. the u.s. army corps of engineers spent i think on the order of $15 billion after the storm to fix the problem. it would have taken maybe $8 billion to $10 billion or something like that to fix it before the problem. so, for every $1 that you spend ahead of disaster protecting against disaster has been on average nationwide shown to save you $4 of not-incurred losses. >> right. >> in new orleans it would be a 10-1 benefit cost. >> i should also say there are some people and harry chscherre is one of them and say it's still not fixed. >> and you have to think about it because we should not fall into the trap what we are in new orleans. so, there's the discussion about barriers. i think all options are right now on the table. what we have to do is spending money so engineers, not levees, but engineers can go through the options and price them out and then see for how long that is good. >> i just want to intervene, again, on the political issue here which is that the republican party has been agai
katrina cost roughly $100 billion. the u.s. army corps of engineers spent i think on the order of $15 billion after the storm to fix the problem. it would have taken maybe $8 billion to $10 billion or something like that to fix it before the problem. so, for every $1 that you spend ahead of disaster protecting against disaster has been on average nationwide shown to save you $4 of not-incurred losses. >> right. >> in new orleans it would be a 10-1 benefit cost. >> i should...
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bush didn't land in new orleans right after hurricane katrina. he didn't want to get in the way of some of the cleanup. of course that disaster response didn't go as well as it looks like president obama is handling the response happening this time. but there is the danger dealing with secret service logistics at a time when regular logistics, just living every day life, becomes incredibly hard. >> i think it's worth pointing out certainly the obama campaign probably didn't imagine the extent. warmth of the words that chris christie has for the president, but mitt romney held his disaster relief event in ohio yesterday. the question that dogged him that he would not answer was about fema. take a listen. >> governor, what should fema's role be? governor, would you eliminate fema if you were president? >> well, it's either 11 or 14 times, depending on whose count you believe. the campaign released a statement saying that romney would not abolish fema but, quote, governor romney believes that states should be in charge of emergency management in res
bush didn't land in new orleans right after hurricane katrina. he didn't want to get in the way of some of the cleanup. of course that disaster response didn't go as well as it looks like president obama is handling the response happening this time. but there is the danger dealing with secret service logistics at a time when regular logistics, just living every day life, becomes incredibly hard. >> i think it's worth pointing out certainly the obama campaign probably didn't imagine the...
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we learned in 2005 with katrina, if the federal response is sluggish or looks unprepared for this, that's a worse damage to the president than anything else, and i think that the president has to do this. he's canceled four events in four states over the next two days. right now he's scheduled to go to green bay at the end of the tuesday. we'll see if that happens. probably unlikely. he may start again on wednesday when he's supposed in ohio. >> although to his benefit you could argue in some of the key states, places like new york and new jersey and connecticut, they're very strong governors there who are experienced with this stuff and unlikely to fumble the response. we'll see how that goes. let's bring in congresswoman marcia blackburn, a republican from tennessee. what impact do you think this storm will have to the presidential race? >> i'm not certain that it's going to have any direct impact. i will say that our thoughts and prayers are definitely with everyone and with the elected officials that are dealing with this response, with the emergency responders. i think that one of th
we learned in 2005 with katrina, if the federal response is sluggish or looks unprepared for this, that's a worse damage to the president than anything else, and i think that the president has to do this. he's canceled four events in four states over the next two days. right now he's scheduled to go to green bay at the end of the tuesday. we'll see if that happens. probably unlikely. he may start again on wednesday when he's supposed in ohio. >> although to his benefit you could argue in...
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people see the images out of new jersey, they think of the indelible images of government failure after katrina. that's what people are reminded of. that's when you had a president and a federal government that did not work, did not come to the aid of people. so you don't have to talk about the bush legacy. you don't have to draw the comparison because it's right there in people's heads. in the case of our dear friend on radio, what's left of his head is clearly exploding. >> ideologue is the kindest thing said about rush limbaugh on my show. richard wolffe always keeps it classy. richard wolffe and krystal ball. thank you both very much for joining us tonight. >>> coming up, mitt romney actually tells the crowd in ohio he knows all about hurricane cleanup, because this is absolutely true, this is what he told them, he once had to help clean up the football field after a football game when he was in high school. seriously. that's his experience with cleanup. and that's in the "rewrite." >>> and with the election just six days away, will voters across the northeast be able to actually vote on el
people see the images out of new jersey, they think of the indelible images of government failure after katrina. that's what people are reminded of. that's when you had a president and a federal government that did not work, did not come to the aid of people. so you don't have to talk about the bush legacy. you don't have to draw the comparison because it's right there in people's heads. in the case of our dear friend on radio, what's left of his head is clearly exploding. >> ideologue is...
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when katrina happened, i got a call the day after from haley barbour, the republican governor from mississippi, who of course, is a friend of mine. and he said, i need guardsmen. can you send me guardsmen? pennsylvania had, you know, nickel on that dime. we're thousands, hundreds of miles away from the gulf, but we have 20,000 guardsmen and i activated 2,100 and sent them down to mississippi and louisiana. and the interesting thing is, i got tons of letters from citizens of those states thanking me, but i also got letters from my own guardsmen, who said it was the best thing they've done since they've been in the national guard, to help americans from another area of the country, who are suffering. and that's the spirit that takes over and it's, as you said, what makes us a special place. >> well, that's why people like you and they like haley barbour, thank you, governor rendell, and thank you, david corn. you don't get to be a governor, you don't know what that's like. and for the latest on the devastation on the jersey shore, we turn to ron allen, who's at point pleasant. i felt for you the
when katrina happened, i got a call the day after from haley barbour, the republican governor from mississippi, who of course, is a friend of mine. and he said, i need guardsmen. can you send me guardsmen? pennsylvania had, you know, nickel on that dime. we're thousands, hundreds of miles away from the gulf, but we have 20,000 guardsmen and i activated 2,100 and sent them down to mississippi and louisiana. and the interesting thing is, i got tons of letters from citizens of those states...
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this is a scene reminiscent of the aftermath of katrina. the nypd was called in to rescue people trapped on their rooftops by rising water. this is taped footage. all five adults and one child were saved from their homes as they were -- as they were trying to get away from the water there. all right. wall street, though, is going to open for business today. that's one of our first signs of normalcy after a two-day shutdown. we'll find out what we can expect, get a preview, plus the nick impact of the storm. mayor michael bloomberg will ring the opening bell and we'll bring that to you live. today's are trivia question. who was the last republican ele elected to the senate from the state of new jersey? the first correct answer will get a follow wednesday from us. a picture of hoboken folks this morning. very sobering to see with all the clouds gone, helicopters coming up, we now see the true devastation that is still impacting the state of new jersey. people really love snapshot from progressive, but don't just listen to me. listen to these
this is a scene reminiscent of the aftermath of katrina. the nypd was called in to rescue people trapped on their rooftops by rising water. this is taped footage. all five adults and one child were saved from their homes as they were -- as they were trying to get away from the water there. all right. wall street, though, is going to open for business today. that's one of our first signs of normalcy after a two-day shutdown. we'll find out what we can expect, get a preview, plus the nick impact...
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you're not seeing the stories like we had during katrina where it was failures on the part of the federal government's response. you don't have that negative aspect. you have chris christie, the most visible republican in the country. certainly according to the media one of the better liked ones. he's out there using his platform to vouch for the leadership of the democratic president. i think that makes a powerful statement to people. i think having bloomberg weigh in makes a pretty strong statement to people as well. and i think just -- it's tough to quantify this. i think it's impossible to quantify this. to me it creates this noise that's sort of in the air, in the media air, and sort of in the conversational air in this country. it creates noise that i think takes wavering voters who maybe were soft obama supporters or soft romney supporters, i could see it moving them, you know, a small share of people, but i could see it moving people toward obama making them more comfortable with the idea of re-electing him. if it's a 1% or something, small, but it's big in the context of this ele
you're not seeing the stories like we had during katrina where it was failures on the part of the federal government's response. you don't have that negative aspect. you have chris christie, the most visible republican in the country. certainly according to the media one of the better liked ones. he's out there using his platform to vouch for the leadership of the democratic president. i think that makes a powerful statement to people. i think having bloomberg weigh in makes a pretty strong...
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bush in 2005 with katrina. many people in the bush white house say that was the low point of his presidency. a lot of dangers, also a lot of political opportunities. >> beyond the optics, let's get practical. early voting is happening in a lot of these states. we've already seen maryland cancel early voting for the day. how much of an impact is that, especial especially that the obama campaign is depending on very much? >> they are talking about it, counting on it, absolutely right, but it also leaves mitt romney back to the optics in an awkward situation. because anything he does might look so blatantly political or almost needy because he's just not in the equation when the country's under siege from a massive storm. >> what can a challenger do? >> what can he do? >> the president of the united states yesterday went to the fema command center which, by the way, was it cynical? maybe the people running the campaign were saying we need to get him there, but the president was doing what presidents do. what does
bush in 2005 with katrina. many people in the bush white house say that was the low point of his presidency. a lot of dangers, also a lot of political opportunities. >> beyond the optics, let's get practical. early voting is happening in a lot of these states. we've already seen maryland cancel early voting for the day. how much of an impact is that, especial especially that the obama campaign is depending on very much? >> they are talking about it, counting on it, absolutely right,...
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from the other party that was publicly voiced came from michael brown, who was the head of fema when katrina struck, and he criticized the president for being too quick to respond to this tragedy. i say bring it on. more criticism like that. >> and he wasn't afraid to hammer the romney campaign over their continued use of the completely misleading jeep ad in the way that only bill clinton can do. >> when i was a kid and i got caught with my hand in a cookie jar, sort of shrugged my shoulders, and my face got red and i took my hand out of the cookie jar. this guy gets caught, he digs down and gets some more cookies. they actually increased the ad buy on an ad they knew was false because they think you're dumb. i think you're smart and i think barack obama will be the next president. "the new york times," fivethirtyeight blog shows president obama ahead by less than one point. president clinton's appeal with white certain voters could be the final push the president needs in the state of virginia. let's bring in joy reid from thegrio.com. i want to say i've never seen a former president be so
from the other party that was publicly voiced came from michael brown, who was the head of fema when katrina struck, and he criticized the president for being too quick to respond to this tragedy. i say bring it on. more criticism like that. >> and he wasn't afraid to hammer the romney campaign over their continued use of the completely misleading jeep ad in the way that only bill clinton can do. >> when i was a kid and i got caught with my hand in a cookie jar, sort of shrugged my...
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of course, katrina being the top of that list. the storm right now located over buffalo. it's going to be a slow exit over the next two days. it's still remaining with clouds and raw, cool temperatures. but the devastating weather is by far over with. just some showers out there today. the rest of the halloween forecast, by the way, for the country looks just fine. the exception being out there in the northwest. of course, we'll have more about sandy and its effects on the election coming up next, harold ford jr. stay with us here on "morning joe." where others fail, droid powers through. introducing the new droid razr maxx hd by motorola. now more than ever droid does. very sore looking kinda blistery. it was like a red rash... like somebody had set a bag of hot charcoal on my neck. i was a firefighter for 24 years. but, i have never encountered such a burning sensation until i had the shingles. i remember it well. i was in the back yard doing yard work. i had this irritation going on in my lower neck. i changed shirts because i thought there was something in the collar
of course, katrina being the top of that list. the storm right now located over buffalo. it's going to be a slow exit over the next two days. it's still remaining with clouds and raw, cool temperatures. but the devastating weather is by far over with. just some showers out there today. the rest of the halloween forecast, by the way, for the country looks just fine. the exception being out there in the northwest. of course, we'll have more about sandy and its effects on the election coming up...